[bhouston]

YZF wrote:

> Al Jazeera is a Qatari state-owned Arabic-language news television network"

You don't have to. Amnesty has written about water in Israel-Palestinian as well, here is a report:

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/11/the-occu...

> Israel only provided some fraction of water and electricity to Gaza and is under no obligation to keep providing that in a state of war.

Israel is actually the one who forced Egypt to not deliver aid for 2 weeks and is limiting it now to just 15 to 20 trucks a day:

"Israel imposed a total two-week blockade on the Palestinian territory, [...], on October 7." Then starting on October 20th or so "Israel has only agreed to allow the delivery of drinking water, food, medicine and other medical supplies. Israeli security forces are checking the contents of the trucks in a transit zone [in Egypt]."

https://www.dw.com/en/gaza-how-much-humanitarian-aid-is-gett...

Both the UN and WHO say that the aid is not enough:

"There are families that are unreachable and are probably starving to death," said Abeer Etefa, senior communications officer for the WFP in Egypt.

https://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/gaza-aid-world-food-prog...

HRW considers it a war crime and outright says it:

"Israel has also engaged in the collective punishment of Gaza’s population through cutting off food, water, electricity, and fuel. This is a war crime, as is willfully blocking humanitarian relief from reaching civilians in need."

https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/10/27/how-does-international-h...

[YZF]

How can Israel force Egypt to do anything? There's a border- on one side Egypt and on the other side Gaza? Israel's not there. What is true is that Israel's agreement is e.g. needed not to bomb that aid so likely that's some of the discussion going on, which is not quite the same thing.

If Egypt allowed, and the UN drove aid trucks in, Israel would not bomb the UN. So aid isn't getting in because Egypt doesn't let it in.

How much water do you think the Hamas has stockpiled in their tunnels for the scenario where they have to continue fighting from there for months? Just asking. How much gas that could be used for desalination? Food? How about asking them to share a little bit with their citizens?

Also please tell me why can't the foreign nationals on the Gazan side leave Gaza into Egypt? Is Israel also preventing them from leaving?

All that said, the civilian population of Gaza should have access to water and should generally be protected as much as possible under the circumstances. I do not support withholding water from them.

[bhouston]

> How can Israel force Egypt to do anything? There's a border- on one side Egypt and on the other side Gaza? Israel's not there. What is true is that Israel's agreement is e.g. needed not to bomb that aid so likely that's some of the discussion going on, which is not quite the same thing.

Israeli explicitly ordered a total blockage of Gaza:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/9/israel-announces-to...

> If Egypt allowed, and the UN drove aid trucks in, Israel would not bomb the UN. So aid isn't getting in because Egypt doesn't let it in.

Are You sure? Israel repeated bombed the Rafah crossing this month as a warning to keep this blockage in place:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/10/alarm-as-israel-ag...

Israel only relented when Biden said to let aid in - that is reported in this article:

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/israel-to-allow-egypt-to-...

> Also please tell me why can't the foreign nationals on the Gazan side leave Gaza into Egypt? Is Israel also preventing them from leaving?

No, that is Egypt I believe. With regards to mass outflows, Egypt is worried that Israel will push the Palestinians in Gaza out and they will never return. That is problematic for Egypt for other reasons, such as Hamas's relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood. For a few foreign nationals, I am not sure the reasoning.

[YZF]

We're not talking mass outflows of Palestinians. We're talking foreign/dual nationals we would just transit through Egypt. Why can't they leave?

The Rafah crossing looked pretty intact in the videos showing the aid convoys going through. We've also seen lots of videos of people waiting on the other side to exit.

Indeed Israel did announce a blockage and/or siege of Gaza. That said they can only blockade areas they control which does not include Egypt. I think they are extremely unlikely to attack aid convoys directly though they may take indirect action against them (such as attacking the roads). Most likely this is done by mutual agreement of the involved parties but this is me speculating.

[bhouston]

> We're not talking mass outflows of Palestinians. We're talking foreign/dual nationals we would just transit through Egypt. Why can't they leave?

I honestly don’t know.

With regard to the blockade it only ended once Biden told Netanyahu he had to stop it. We can keep talking about this but all articles say the same thing.

Apparently there is now Israeli checks of all goods on trucks entering via Egypt. It may be a new development but they are now there on the Egyptian side of the border.

[YZF]

The US (Blinken) has now come out and said Hamas is preventing the foreign nationals from leaving. They're basically hostages.