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by 0xDEAFBEAD 972 days ago
I don't use X, but can you explain more about why this change has been harmful?

"People have often accused Twitter of being full of people trying to shout the loudest"

It sounds like maybe the subscriber change has actually addressed this problem? Instead of people trying to should the loudest, you get "random comments by $8 subscribers"?

Given the choice between people paying for attention, vs people being deliberately inflammatory for attention, I think I'd prefer the former. But again, I don't use X, just looking for more details here in order to understand.

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The like and reply system is an organic and representative method of what comments people find interesting, pay2win is not. Especially because it is precisely the most inflammatory, spammy, and annoying people paying to have their opinion boosted. If their takes were interesting or pleasant they wouldn't be paying for someone to read them in the first place.
>The like and reply system is an organic and representative method of what comments people find interesting

I think maybe you've got rose-colored glasses on? See e.g. this post from Nate Silver about old Twitter:

>If you’re one of those annoying people like me who thinks there’s value in pointing out hypocrisy ... you will get absolutely shat upon on Twitter. People feel extremely threatened when you point this stuff out. They will go great lengths to deter it. They will launch all types of ad hominem attacks against you.

>...

>Twitter’s architecture makes this worse, particularly the quote retweet and the Trending Topics module. It is a medium where dissent from the consensus is treated punitively.

https://www.natesilver.net/p/twitter-elon-and-the-indigo-blo...

Or here's another post about old Twitter:

>Really, the problem with Twitter is just that it’s ruled by shouty jerks. All of the other problems — ubiquitous fear of “cancellation”, disruption of organizations, toxic status anxiety — ultimately come back to the Shouting Class.

https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/how-to-fix-twitter

It's interesting to me that HN threads about Twitter seem uniquely toxic, e.g. namecalling Elon. My hypothesis is that there's been a population replacement. Twitter was previously dominated by a certain group of shouters. The old shouters lost their power to a new group of shouters, and now the old shouters shout about the situation here on HN.