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by jjav 973 days ago
> There are plenty of other avenues for communication that don't succumb to the many inherent pitfalls of email

The pitfall in this very article is the fact that communication was centralized on a giant near-monopoly which imposes it's arbitrary rules on users by filtering whatever they want.

So in that context, can you tell what these other avenues of communication are that don't suffer from this exact same problem? I'm guessing you're thinking of various 100% proprietary channels, all of which suffer from the problem of being centralized and users and content can get arbitrarily banned or blocked for no reason.

At least with email you can simply stop using microsoft-hosted email and move elsewhere and your problems go away while still remaining email accessible to everyone.

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> I'm guessing you're thinking of various 100% proprietary channels, all of which suffer from the problem of being centralized and users and content can get arbitrarily banned or blocked for no reason.

You are looking for an open+federated protocol. Those definitely exist.

For example, an older one that I'm well aware has probably long-ago-peaked is XMPP. One can host their own XMPP domain and talk to other XMPP domains just like email can. It also has the ability to send content, presence, pub-sub notifications, offline messages (much like an email message) ... you name it. Storing contact lists and associations combined with the fact that messages come from authenticated sources by default means that spam is a lot harder to accomplish (or at least a lot easier to squash). All of this and XMPP is a 25 year-old protocol; This protocol can legally drink in the US. Just imagine what else exists today! :)

However, the problem is not what technically exists. The problem is what is popular. Email is still extremely popular and ingrained in so many places. It's easy to extend and put up a quick webpage that submits an email from some user-input. It's easy to send notifications/advertisements to. Attachment protocols have largely been sussed out. It's even used quite commonly as a second form of authentication. You can expect most people to have an email address while a much smaller percentage of people expect to have any other single-form of electronic communication.

> You are looking for an open+federated protocol. Those definitely exist.

Yes I am. Like you know, email.

That's why email is so awesome. I can easily spell out my email address to anyone in the world and they can now send me a message. We don't have to share platforms or apps or OSs or providers or anything at all, other than access to a TCP/IP pipe. And I will then receive that message. No company can interfere with that.

Yup, xmpp checks all of those boxes too. The addresses even look the same.
> Yup, xmpp checks all of those boxes too.

Well, except one.

Go find a random nontechnical person and tell them "send me an xmpp" and see if you ever get that message!

Email not only has all the technical advantages noted above, but also the advantage of universality. Just about everyone who has ever used the internet, no matter how nontechnical, will have sent emails so they'll know how to reach you.

I covered that too. “The problem is what is popular.”