[jncfhnb]

Everyone who saw it and has basic comprehension abilities can hopefully understand the basic premise which is awkwardly explicitly stated: that bickering around the right and wrong way to do feminism is bullshit, harmful discourse.

[busterarm]

I didn't say anything about feminism when you responded to my comment.

This is an argument that you put in my mouth.

I just said that the comments from the production-side of the movie were braindead and sexist.

This is all a conversation that _you_ wanted to have.

[jncfhnb]

Accusing a movie‘s portrayal of women of being sexist, especially a movie written by the person behind a billion dollar film about a woman trying to empower women who gets accused of being an icon of sexism, is well within the current dialogue of feminism.

It is in fact, a humorously ironically relevant argument.

[busterarm]

> about a woman trying to empower women

Only if you're in that middle-class, ultra-consumerist "girl-boss" demographic that the movie is marketed/trying to appeal to. That message is largely lost at the margins, as is typical in "pretty, white feminism". You're ignoring the elephant in the room -- any empowerment message takes a back seat to the goals of selling tickets and "buy our shit".

[jncfhnb]

It’s kind of crazy how many cliches you’re spouting that are directly addressed by the movie almost verbatim as if to imply that the movie was trying to pretend didn’t exist

[busterarm]

Everything they "addressed" in the film was done so hamfistedly and badly.

Which is fine, because it's a goddamned studio film. Studio films aren't supposed to be what the movie they thought they were trying to make is.

It ends up being so paint-by-numbers that it subverts whatever they might have wanted to do.

[jncfhnb]

I do think this film suffers from being a studio film. A lot, actually.

But that is not a blanket excuse to diminish everything it says.