[ndsipa_pomu]

> The kind of thing a normal man couldn't really overcome.

Isn't one of the main points in Christianity that people have free will and so Satan wouldn't be entering and controlling Judas, but would more likely be telling him falsehoods and persuading him to sell Jesus out? i.e. a normal man can always overcome Satan by choosing God, even if it's just right at the end of their life.

[boomboomsubban]

You're supposed to have free will, but nobody is immune to the temptations of sin and at some point even the holiest men fail. Jesus forgives all if you ask.

[ndsipa_pomu]

I'm a confirmed atheist, so I'm not about to ask Jesus for anything, nor any of the thousands of other prophets/gods that different people believe in.

[boomboomsubban]

Ok? I'm in a similar boat, that doesn't mean I can't have some level of understanding about Christian theology.

[ndsipa_pomu]

Sorry, I thought you were trying to get me to convert to some version of Christianity with your "Jesus forgives all if you ask" statement.

I'm actually of the opinion that Christianity held back humanity's development for at least a thousand years.

[explaininjs]

The abolition of slavery was almost entirely a Christian effort. So yes civilization my right be "more advanced" without Christianity, but it wouldn't be a civilization I'd want to be in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_abolition_of_slave...