[FireBeyond]

For the longest time, at least the visual representation of trains at a level crossing strongly implied challenges around object permanence for Tesla.

I will say that I recognize that the visual representation may not be a 1:1 (in fact quite certainly isn't) mapping of the computer's "world view".

But it was quite ridiculous and definitely disconcerting seeing a level crossing with a train going through it and seeing the Tesla I was in acting like there was a traffic light that was erratically going red, while dozens of semi trucks flickered in and out of existence across the screen in front of me.

[mike_d]

> strongly implied challenges around object permanence for Tesla

Anyone who has ever ridden in a Tesla knows they have no real perception of the world around them. Even just driving down the road they show icons of the things around them, which will randomly appear and disappear or change from busses to pedestrians to cars.

[marcosdumay]

Well, ok, in hindsight I have to make an exception for Tesla here. They are famously flickery, and I do expect them to have a bug after the other.

But I really don't expect that from the cars that go around without a driver.

[phatskat]

I’m guessing because Tesla uses cameras and everyone else uses LiDAR, right?

[marcosdumay]

Because Tesla is not self-driving, and thus their designers have no need to solve those bugs.

[phatskat]

They sure aren’t, Musk just keeps saying “this year”, and has been saying it for like a decade?