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by haspok 974 days ago
So whose fault would it be? Let me rephrase the question: who is picking strawberries from the fields in the UK now?

I recommend everyone to watch the series called "Benefits Britain: Life on the Dole" (mostly available on YT). I don't even blame these people, they are just doing what the system lets them get away with.
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FirmwareBurner 974 days ago
That's just pointless whataboutism. Workers being wage dumped on by cheaper more desperate workforce that puts downward pressure on the labor market reducing their power to negociate higher wages, and people choosing to live on the dole because they're fuckups at life, are two different orthogonal issues that are unrelated.

Imagine you graduate form university and apply for jobs where your employer receives 1 resume for every position open. What happens with your bargaining power when your employer can now hire from anywhere in the world without any visa barriers and now receives 200 resumes for the same position?

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haspok 974 days ago
> reducing their power to negociate higher wages

"Negociate"?

> Workers being wage dumped on by cheaper more desperate workforce...

"Wage dump" - that word again. So this is how people pick up policital slogans and start repeating them, without even thinking about how much of it is true. I don't think it is true.

> people choosing to live on the dole because they're fuckups at life

Think about who is paying for their benefits.

> What happens with your bargaining power when your employer can now hire from anywhere in the world without any visa barriers

Right, because that's what's going on in the UK. I don't think anyone suggested anything even remotely like that. In fact, I don't know of any country that does that.

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FirmwareBurner 974 days ago
>Negociate"?

Yes, negociate, bargain, haggle, call it whatever you want. Everyone negociates their wage, or at least tries to. Do you not where you live?

>"Wage dump" - that word again. So this is how people pick up policital slogans and start repeating them, without even thinking about how much of it is true. I don't think it is true.

What's your point? That if your boss would have 10x the number of candidates your wages and negotiation power wouldn't tank?

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