[benj111]

I disagree.

Manufacturing processors is expensive. You need a big successful company to show that it's possible and profitable to invest.

Long term, yes I kind of agree, you run the risk of extend and extinguish if you get one dominant player, but you aren't going to get to the point of RISC V being successful by shunning big companies willing to invest. You just need to make sure they're more red hat or sun (pre buyout).

[phkahler]

Manufacturing processors is expensive.

Not really. I'd say designing processors is expensive in engineering costs, and open designs are already pretty impressive and can be used as starting points. It's also expensive to optimize a design for a given process, which is necessary to get the best performance (probably by a factor of two?) from the design/process. So I'd expect the foundries to start offering optimized RISC-V cores to SoC designers as part of their offerings - especially as we reach the end of scaling.

[benj111]

Ok, the designing, and tooling, testing etc.

But that just makes it worse.

If you have to spend £5million over 5 years to design something, you need to get funding until the point where you're actually selling products. If all the cost is in the actual manufacturing, you don't need the capital outlay early on.