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by jehb 962 days ago
I can't wait for e-paper to get cheaper for consumers, but I'm not looking forward to the inevitable increase in advertising displays this will accommodate when it does.
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Advertising is one of those area where energy costs and needs don't seem to be a problem. It we could replace all "active" advertising display by e-ink, we would save an insane amount of energy. It feels like every bus stops now has one of those lcd ad screen, because good old recycled paper is not good enough anymore.
I guess that changing the paper displays cost a lot more than people imagine when you include all the backend jobs for distribution.

Being able to change the sign quickly/often for new advertisers might also bring in more money. E.g. you can now sell different advertisements on Friday versus other weekdays, and more specialized Christmas advertisement.

With eInk, an advertiser can also change the ads based upon who is walking/driving down the street.
I guess they definitely are a problem; but one that the advertisers don't have an incentive to solve maybe.

Will lack of backlighting cause difficulties tho?

How about not putting advertisements on public utilities though
I'm all for this philosophy but you'd need to raise taxes to compensate. It's always a trade-off
For BART in the Bay Area, it’s a shockingly small amount of money - $1.7M in revenue out of $255M total. I’d happily pay half a percent more to not have that crap put in my face. Hell, I’ll pay your half percent too.
Advertising is a negative-sum game. If we replace all "active" advertising displays with e-ink, we won't be saving energy - that energy will be immediately put to use in making even more of even more obnoxious ads.
> I'm not looking forward to the inevitable increase in advertising displays this will accommodate when it does.

Counterpoint - a large e-ink advert market means (likely) cheaper e-ink products for consumers. E-ink isn't likely to replace cheap paper, it's more likely to replace LCDs and OLED screens which are already more obvious/intrusive as they're self-emitting.

Does anyone know what the long-term price of these is likely to trend towards? Like, is there some fundamental reason (materials, proess) that they'll always be 10x the cost of an LCD screen, or can we expect them to eventually get to similar prices?
The big e-ink screens are handmade, because there's basically no demand for $3k 1Hz screens so they haven't invested in automating the process.

In theory, the big screens could be roughly comparable to LCD screen prices, like the 6" e-ink screens already are.

They key cause of cost in e-ink is lack of demand, and more specifically lack of demand compared to LCDs. LCDs are produced at a rate of billions per quarter, they're so stupidly cheap it's almost unfair to compare them with e-ink. Point is, LCDs will always be cheaper unless demand changes.

I’ll take eink ads over LCD ads.
That’s easy to solve, you will just install uBlock Origin: AR edition on your googles to block ads. :D
It's E-Ink. Look at it wrong and it breaks. I expects activists to conveniently lean against them.
Just make the lenses polarized. That'll block the ads from screens. Allow the user to reach up and dial in the orientation for optimal blocking
They'll just make the screens' polarization angle the same as your glasses'.
wow, really? did you miss the point of being able to dial in the optimal polarization?
The point you edited in after I made my comment? Yes.
nope. it was there in there originally.
Ah, but uBlock Origin will cease to work with (or will be severely limited by) the next Manifest upgrade of your "googles". ;-)