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by tropsis 964 days ago
People who have lost someone to suicide often seek someone to blame, yet they seldom consider that the person may have had their reasons, most possibly unrelated to that forum. The forum serves as a vital outlet for individuals enduring difficult times, potentially saving more lives than it has taken. Nonetheless, some non-suicidal individuals aim to erase it merely due to personal dislike. It's bewildering.
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Nursie 964 days ago
The story talks about a few things which make it likely that the forum is contributory - a user is described as using information from the forum to frustrate a mental health evaluation, and in taking advice on an effective method of ending their lives.

It's not personal dislike so much as it seems like facilitation. Advice on how to fake it through a mental health assessment, which may otherwise have lead to help being given, seems particularly harmful.

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tropsis 964 days ago
I don't see any problem with that. Information that increases personal autonomy should be available to anyone, everywhere, and for any reason.

When you talk about "help being given," I suppose you are referring to drugs that don't work for most and therapy that cannot address the underlying problems.

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Nursie 964 days ago
When I talk about help being given I’m talking about interventions by friends, family and mental health professionals, that could take many forms. Knowing someone has a problem is the first step to helping them.

Not just drugs, that is an unfair characterisation of my argument.

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Pannoniae 964 days ago
It's because there is no real "help" being given there. Mental health services in many places are just "if you are really suicidal, we lock you up, otherwise we do nothing"... faking an assessment so you don't get institutionalised and get brain damage from all the pyschiatric drugs and end up a zombie is a pretty good idea IMO

What kind of help do you think they would give if they evaluate your mental health is poor?

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Nursie 964 days ago
If you hide your intent to kill yourself then nobody can help. And if you guide others in how to hide it, you’re increasing the likelihood they will die by their own hands.

It’s not a good thing to do.

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