[WD40forRust]

Because of (2): I am less 'patriotic' and will put myself above "my nation" because of what online dating has shown regarding male attraction.

I have no skin in this game in any way that would have me contributing to society; and, from twenty years of experience being told repeatedly I am not good enough, I will act completely selfishly. It is my duty, and the duties of other "leftover men" like me, to minimize any sort of sense of civic duty, contribution, and taxation, and to keep an eye out for a much better deal (even if it's in a foreign country). We must not let The State turn us into cucks: let the nation of single mothers sink or swim on its own without us!

[drjasonharrison]

Wow. While women may not "need" men, men live longer when they are in a healthy long term relationship. Typically this is heterosexual marriage, but if you can find a buddy who will do the stuff that a wife will do when your body decays, good for you.

My mom outlived my father by a few years. My grandmothers both outlived their husbands. This is well known pattern.

"men going their own way" may lead to more lonely, sick, unhappy men.

[mgamache]

This is exactly why a marriage norm exists. You can't have large societies with a Signiant number of men not invested in it's future. They tend to find destructive ways to use their energy.

[mcpackieh]

They can downvote you but I don't think they can explain why you're wrong.