[jabradoodle]

Nobody has stigmatized engines, people are trying to reduce emissions because the greatest body of knowledge we have access to (science) suggests we should.

[pauldenton]

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/09/23/governor-newsom-announces-... and outside of just gas powered engines https://apnews.com/article/berkeley-california-natural-gas-b...

[jabradoodle]

It's an inanimate object, it's not being stigmatised, it's being phased out.