[toomuchtodo]

If it's in your offer letter (remote arrangement), a cease and desist to HR seems to work when you mention constructive dismissal. Haven't tried it with Amazon though, they aren't one to really care about employment laws or regulation.

(paid the employment attorney to send this letter for the person I had have this baked into their offer letter when HR said "we don't do that" and had to do it when they said they'll just walk, n=1)

[Aurornis]

> If it's in your offer letter (remote arrangement), a cease and desist to HR seems to work when you mention constructive dismissal.

Constructive dismissal doesn't mean the company has to continue employing you remotely, even if you could win.

> Haven't tried it with Amazon though, they aren't one to really care about employment laws or regulation.

Don't you think somebody would have tried this already? Amazon has a lot of employees

[toomuchtodo]

You sure are putting a lot of effort into comments effectively stating "you're out of luck, don't even bother." If that's your opinion, good luck to you. If that's genuinely the case, doesn't hurt to pull out all the stops to try to get some agency against corporate psychopathy. Your experience is not necessarily that of others.

[Aurornis]

> You sure are putting a lot of effort into comments effectively stating "you're out of luck, don't even bother."

If you think you have a novel legal case against a company with over a million employees and scores of lawyers, by all means go for it.

But I guarantee you are wasting your time.

> If that's genuinely the case, doesn't hurt to pull out all the stops to try to get some agency against corporate psychopathy.

Maybe in a world where legal services are free, lawyers will take any case, and you have infinite time to spend fighting losing battles in court.

In the real world, suing a giant corporation like Amazon for something that has already been proven to be legal for decades is just wasting your time and money.

Also, do you really think nobody has thought of this before and tried it?

[toomuchtodo]

If the attorney will take the case the NLRB will accept the complaint, why not? Why would you not want to make Amazon spin resources if there is a chance of success? You are very confident for someone who is not an attorney or regulator. Good chat, always interesting to see how someone else thinks.

[scarface_74]

My grandfather told me not to chase after old money or old women.

The very day I got a my ultimatum of “do this monkey dance and you might have a chance of staying or take this big ass check and leave”. I didn’t even let the manager list out all of the things I would need to do. I asked how much money I would get if I leave, said OK where do I sign and started looking for a job the same day.

After 25+ years in the industry, I stay prepared.

Why would I waste time and energy to stay at Amazon? It served its purpose. I added to my resume, I made my money and I had a job within three weeks still working remotely with a lot less bullshit.

It was actually two weeks after my last day and even before my paid out 10 days of PTO was over let alone severance

[raincom]

I can understand about "old women". Can you clarify about "old money"? Just curious about it.

[Aurornis]

> If the attorney will take the case the NLRB will accept the complaint, why not?

I already said it above: Low to zero odds of winning

Most importantly: Attorneys don't work for free.

I know this is this internet where armchair legal advice is to sue everyone, but in the real world attorneys like to get paid. Some of them will happily take cases you have no chance of winning as long as you pay up front.

If you have infinite time and money, go for it.