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by zaphar
980 days ago
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On what basis do you believe the explosion was more likely to be Israeli than Hamas? From what I've been able to glean it seems like the exact opposite. 1. Hamas is extremely willing to sacrifice their own people in pursuit of their goals. 2. Hamas was making homemade rockets out of water pipe. Far less reliable than Israeli munitions. 3. Isreal has demonstrated over and over that they will bend over backwards to minimize civilian casualties despite Hamas literally using them as human shields. 4. Israel is not shy about taking credit for bombings even if civilians were causualties when they have credible evidence of Hamas presence. 5. Hamas are documented liars in the region and even their Arab neighbors don't trust them. Balance of evidence makes it far more credible that Hamas is trying to use their own failure to gin up support. Do you have real and credible evidence to the contrary? |
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First, you'll notice I never actually said this.
>1. Hamas is extremely willing to sacrifice their own people in pursuit of their goals.
Not even Israel claims it was Hamas intentionally bombing the parking lot.
>2. Hamas was making homemade rockets out of water pipe. Far less reliable than Israeli munitions.
Sure, but not sure the relevance of this, yes, it could be an accidental misfire Hamas munition. It could also be a purposeful firing of Israeli munition.
>3. Isreal has demonstrated over and over that they will bend over backwards to minimize civilian casualties
I do not believe this is true.
>4. Israel is not shy about taking credit for bombings even if civilians were causualties when they have credible evidence of Hamas presence.
Israel is pretty shy about taking credit for things that get them in hot water in the foreign press. For example, when IDF soldiers deliberately targeted, shot, and then denied medical aid (killing) to American journalist Shireen Abu Akleh, the Israeli government blamed her death on Palestinians for months.
>5. Hamas are documented liars in the region and even their Arab neighbors don't trust them.
As noted, Israel are also documented liars.
Anyways, I liked this reporting from the UK which does a pretty good job of laying out the uncertainty one way or the other: https://www.channel4.com/news/who-was-behind-the-gaza-hospit...