[throwaway237289]

HN is still a site about creating businesses, right?

The NYT needs to consider its customers, and ensure they find the balance to make its customers happy. For them, there's a fine line between event reporting, "truth", and point of view.

It's not political backlash. It's pissing off your subscription base. And that's really dumb.

[FormerBandmate]

As a customer of news, I want the fucking news. If I want people’s opinions I will go to the opinion section

[throwaway237289]

If you're an actual, paying customer of NYT, then I would hazard that you're welcome to tell them you don't like what they're doing by not paying them.

If you're a freeloader that's just talking about generic morals and integrity, welcome to reality. Businesses get paid by giving customers what they want.

[kylebenzle]

Until they are saying something bad about your religion, then things change real quick.

[colpabar]

If the NYT is just a business that exists to make its customers happy as you are suggesting, why do we take them seriously? Isn't that why everyone hates fox news?

[somenameforme]

Inertia. Fox kind of made fun of itself from a pretty early stage with 'fair and balanced' when they were never even pretending to be such. The NYTimes was an excellent, and at least reasonably impartial, paper for many decades. So, many people still look at them as the same as they were decades ago, even though a remotely objective look can tell you they've also long since jumped the shark, hard.

I think there's also the practical problem that there really isn't any good media anymore. It's not like I can say 'well the NYTimes sucks - go to [blah]'. There was an absolutely excellent article by Bob Kaiser (editor at WaPo for decades) - The Bad News About the News. [1] I'm really remiss to give cliff notes because the article covers so much and so eloquently, but in general - the internet has played a major role in destroying the overall quality of news.

[1] - http://csweb.brookings.edu/content/research/essays/2014/bad-...

[93po]

Okay good, so we’re on the same page that NYT will lie and be dishonest for commercial purposes and isn’t an outlet of journalist integrity.

[throwaway237289]

Absolutely. Your tone comes off as negative, but it's actually the truth and it's better you accept it today.

Welcome to reality, where people get paid by customers to do work.

[93po]

To be clear my snarky tone is directed more at others that trust corporate news. We're on the same page, I think corporate news is garbage