[malfist]

Did you upgrade your cell phone plan so you could have 1080p video on YouTube?

That's an example of non-neutral net

[criddell]

I'm on TMobile in part because I got a free Netflix and MLB.tv. Is that an example?

[ericmay]

Yea that's probably an example - those companies get preferential treatment on the network w.r.t traffic and so competitors have a harder time entering the market.

[criddell]

But if they simply give you a free subscription without any kind traffic shenanigans, it's not a net neutrality issue?

[zamalek]

> without any kind traffic shenanigans, it's not a net neutrality issue?

Yep.

But they do rate-limit people: https://www.t-mobile.com/support/plans-features/activate-hd-...

If you're on the top plan then you haven't experienced it. The irony is that T-Mobile was one of the ISPs throwing support behind net-neutrality, and now they are one of the most aggressive net discriminators.

[ericmay]

Probably not unless there is something I'm not considering

[l33t7332273]

I don’t think bundling other paid services counts. It’s only if the ISP treats the traffic to/from those paid services differently that you run afoul of net neutrality.

[plussed_reader]

The term you're dancing around is zero-rating, and it is viewed unfavorably.

https://dig.watch/topics/network-neutrality#:~:text=Zero%2Dr....

[snarfy]

But they do. Typically the bundled video services like Netflix or Apple don't count against your bandwidth usage.

[criddell]

TMobile gives me free Netflix, but I use it on my television which uses my home internet. So even if they zero-rated that service, in my case it's irrelevant.

Plus I think I have an unlimited* plan, so zero-rating something doesn't have much impact.

[pyuser583]

No, I did not. My cell data plan has never preferred one bit over the other.

[lotsofpulp]

If you are in the US, there is always a ranking of bits on a mobile network. Perhaps not by your plan specifically, but by the network operator.

https://www.reddit.com/r/NoContract/comments/tn4733/qci_leve...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QoS_Class_Identifier

[mmanfrin]

Every major plan I've seen has traffic shaping or throttling for streaming, even Google Fi itself for Youtube, their own property.

[Longlius]

That's because Google doesn't own the Google Fi infrastructure. They use T-Mobile's.

[malfist]

Lucky you, you must not be on Verizon, AT&T or TMobile

[talent_deprived]

Did you ever want to fly first class versus coach?