[nicwilson]

not just a drunk, a cheap drunk.

[dylan604]

But isn't it a deeper commentary into English culture with Gin since the elderberry is what is used to make Gin from just alcohol? They didn't make a joke about grapes=>wine, or peat moss=>scotch.

[julian_t]

I thought the basis of gin was juniper berries, not elderberries (although you can make elderberry gin in the same way as sloe gin)

[dekhn]

https://www.bythedutch.com/genever/

[dylan604]

The "good stuff" is made with juniper berries. Gin can be made from whatever is around.

[gandalfian]

The traditional basis of gin is basic industrial alcohol. The berries are just the flavouring.