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by tjrgergw 972 days ago
Libertarians are always guilty of such "ironies", some would even call them hypocrisies. It's almost like the veneer of well reasoned ideology is a front just wanting more power.
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Hypocrisy can be found in many groups. For example I've seen many leftists that claim to be pro-immigration, protest against asylum centra opening in their wealthy neighbourhoods. Or people that claim to be worried about climate change travel the world and protest against wind turbines near their neighbourhoods.

Hypocrisy is not limited to certain groups, pretty much all people are hypocritical at times.

Is that protesting immigration processing or immigration detention centres? I can see why a pro-immigration person can be against what looks like a prison going up in a leafy suburb. They may change their mind if what’s going up is simply a document processing centre that people visit when they need to.
You are cherry picking the one (weaker) example by badly interpreting it and trying to extend that to the others.

All groups have hypocrisy where people push for others to aim for lofty goals, but fight tooth and nail to not have their local community pay the costs. Left, right, authoritarians, anarchists, etc.

I didn't provide the example.
Not disagreeing with you.

But you have reminded me to do a self-assessment, find all of the hypocrisy I can, and correct it.

Libertarian has been a loaded term, and what you are referring to is probably right-libertarianism which is the dorminant form in the US.

Most folks already know that, but I just want to point it out since I personally identify as left libertarian.

Whom it attracts doesn't define it. I think we could all postulate some interesting personalities for some other ideologies.
I don't know why you're being down voted. This is spot on.
It’s called painting with too wide a brush.

A lot of us are simply interested in promoting and continuing to evolve and understand that well-reasoned ideology. We feel its application can improve the human condition.

HN is a discussion board connected to a venture capital platform and it attracts lot of libertarians and they don't like to be called out.

The term "libertarian" changed a lot over time, from socialist libertarianism to far-right libertarianism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_libertarian_thinke... Here we are talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism and check out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism#Analysis_an...

It's being downvoted because there is no inconsistency between publicly stated beliefs and actions. Look into it more closely.
If it is being downvoted, it's at least partly because it's an unrealistic standard that is about as serious as the take that "socialists" shouldn't be allowed to use smartphones or other products of "capitalism."
I think the issue is stereotyping. Replace "libertarian" with "republican" or "democrat" and reconsider the statement.
You must be new to politics... There are bad apples in every party, the actions of one individual do not represent the whole party
> the actions of one individual do not represent the whole party

The "bad apples" phrase is often (usually?) misused. The whole saying is: "One bad apple spoils the barrel". In general, it refers to corruption, and especially bent coppers. Here in the UK, we recently had the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police saying that the rash of rapists in the Met is just "a few bad apples".

It's not just a question of taint; if you leave the "bad apples" in there, you'll end up with no good apples at all.