[expertentipp]

Asking in Europe anything higher than 60% of what levels.fyi claims for any publicly traded company guarantees not receiving an offer. Funny because our public services and healthcare are the same dysfunctional as in US, only in different ways.

[sofixa]

> Funny because our public services and healthcare are the same dysfunctional as in US, only in different ways.

The same, or different? There's various levels of dysfunction depending on the country, but outcomes are better and there is zero risk of life crippling debt. Anyone not a multi-millionaire who could afford the best private care would take that deal any day of the week.

[expertentipp]

Waiting times in months in context of cancer, pregnancy, and other critical health issues. Distributing the public services through nepotist barter, even basic services like a stupid consultation. Doesn't matter if one dies with or without some debt on top of it.

[Ylpertnodi]

Not in my Eu country. Where do you get your info and where specifically are you referring to? I can choose to wait for an appointment or i can pay. Waiting involves non-life changing issues so the wait is based on severity. My last referral was 'within 7 days', and i got seen (fairly serious). Either, someone got bumped or there's enough flex in the system to handle surprises. My last stay in hospital [oct of 21] my costs were about €40 - for 10 days, inclusive of everything.

[sofixa]

Source?

Waiting times in months for pregnancy makes little sense since:

* many pregnancy related things have specific timelines that should be followed

* pretty much all European countries have negative natural growth, meaning that there are fewer and fewer babies being born. It's highly unlikely related specialists are being overburdened.

[expertentipp]

Ain't got no time for discussing the obvious. Low fertility rates are a result, not like anyone is doing anything reasonable to address it. Doctors? Why bother when they can charge EUR 2k for "birth experience" in private clinic. Politicians? At this stage they only care about the real estate they hoarded.

[sofixa]

So no source, just vibes? Gotcha

[HDThoreaun]

> outcomes are better

This tells us very little about healthcare quality because of differences in choices made by americans and europeans. Americans are much fatter and more reckless. Other than smoking Americans partake in life shortening activities more often.