[thriftwy]

I had no idea what they are up to these days.

I own a button dumb phone by Nokia, it's fine but would not explain even 1% of that employment number.

PA says they're making telecom equipment now. Fun thing it also mentions Ericsson, which used to make phones under its brand, then Sony-Ericsson smartphones (not unlike Microsoft-Nokia) and then had to drop it completely.

[fch42]

The Nokia of today has little (left) in common with "the Nokia of lore". Just as that had little in common with the company that used to supply the Finnish Army with Rubber boots.

The Nokia-of-phones sold itself to Microsoft and was subsequently wound down. While the brand name for phones still exists, it's no longer held by the corporation now called "Nokia". That came to be, if you like to call it that, from a "reverse merger".

The telecommunications equipment branch (which makes base stations and wireless connectivity hardware) was partially outsourced and recombined with that of Siemens, and later I think parts of Ericsson, to form "Nokia-Siemens Networks". Which after "old-new" Nokia's demise took (bought ?) the name back and became ... just "Nokia" again.

So yes there are "Nokia phones" again/still, but they're no longer made by Nokia. While Nokia-of-today is still doing what they (if under slightly different names) have done for 25y+ - make, install, maintain telecommunications infrastructure.

[dagw]

While the brand name for phones still exists, it's no longer held by the corporation now called "Nokia"

The corporation now called "Nokia" still owns the brand name "Nokia" for phones, but is licensing it to HMD Global, a Finnish mobile phone company started by ex-Nokia people, but largely financed by Foxconn.

[secondcoming]

I use an XR20 as a daily phone and it's great. No crapware. Lots of OS updates.

[dagw]

No crapware

Other than sending your data to China...

https://www.engadget.com/2019-03-23-nokia-explains-phone-dat...

[pjmlp]

Nokia Siemens Networks didn't had anything from Ericson as far I can remember.

I was there from the Nokia Networks days, through the whole NSN merge process, and finally closing down most of the German locations, moving them to Indian and Eastern Europe locations.

[tgaj]

This button dumb phone is not even produced by Nokia - it only has Nokia logo. Nokia is one of major players on both 5G and PON markets - and that would be more than enough if not the recession.