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by JKCalhoun 978 days ago
Someone in the props department had a massive furniture budget. I love it.

It reminds me how the "chair" is one of those objects supposedly so hard to classify for things like machines, a little easier for humans. Although may of these designs cause even my brain to struggle with, "Is that a chair?" Some reminded me of the Wood Allen bit from Sleeper:

https://youtu.be/H4ZBPz4DinU?si=OM5TOpkumyNwPOvG

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One of the benefits of Hollywood is rental and studio stock. Many of these sets are one-off or occasional, and the furniture would return after the shoot.
I was asked to build an electronic prop for a movie once and the strangest question to me was "how do we return it to you?"

Made no sense to me: you're paying me to build you a custom object, why would I want it back? Until I realized that so much stuff in movies is just rented: they wouldn't even have a place to store it after the production is over.

I read that one of HBO MAX’s key advantages over Netflix is that WB has a century worth of costumes and props in the archive that are available and catalogued for any new production. Whereas Netflix shows pretty much throw away everything when a shoot is done.
In the old studio days when they were cranking out a lot of films--many of which were probably fairly similar in style (e.g. Westerns)--it probably made more sense. I assume Netflix is mostly just writing checks to independent production companies. There's an overhead to storing and cataloging a bunch of props and I'm guessing there isn't a lot of return for Netflix to do so.
This is also a long standing production strategy for Star Trek.

One of the reasons the original series had so many episodes where they went to a planet that was just like Earth in some specific time period was the availability of props, costumes, and even sets. Entire episodes were written around this conceit: there's the episode where they land on a Nazi planet, the episode where they land on a Roman Empire planet, another episode where they meet an alien who turns out to be the literal Greek god Apollo, an episode where they land on the planet of the Prohibition-era mobsters, and an OK Corral episode just to name a few. From TNG onwards, the holodeck was used for similar purposes.

> Prohibition-era mobsters

The whole noir thing was way overdone in Star Trek. Seems like there was one in every season of every show.

Nazi planet is the all time best though.
this is sort of dying. there are only one or two major prop houses still running. Sony just shut theirs down and they were one of the last studios to have their own prop warehouse. several specialty shops remain, but they seem much more limited in selection.
Less so than you may think, at least for the initial run for the show. Most mid-century modern furniture was designed to be cheap enough for the middle class/upper-middle class (although the show did tend to use more-expensive leather variants), which brought it relatively wide popularity. That popularity would later cause an increase in price as they became notable objects.
I also presume there's huge furniture rental places for movie studios in the neighbourhood.
They sure had a tremendous furniture budget! I guess the wardroom department was jealous!
Wardrobe? Star Trek didn't even have a wardroom, just replicators, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardroom

:-)

DS9 had a wardroom, Sisko got promoted there

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Wardroom

Didn't know that. DS9 is the only series in the franchise I was never really able to get in to. I've only seen a handful of episodes.
Together, DS9 and Babylon 5 are rightfully credited with innovating the long form series. What the kids today might call "binge worthy."

Their story arcs were known from the outset. Each (main) character has their own hero's journey and side quests. Both had satisfying endings.

Also, officially, Capt Sisko is the GOAT. With Capt Janeway placing a strong 2nd. Though Capt Pike (Strange New Worlds) is quite promising, but only time will tell.

Whereas Voyager has most of my most favorite episodes, esp wrt Ensign Kim, DS9's characters are legend, esp Quark. I couldn't pick a favorite DS9 character (or story), even on pain of death, because I cherish them all equally.

DS9 was both darker and more serialized than the other Trek shows. Like TNG (although perhaps not as extremely so) it also didn't really have the strongest start. Personally I think it's in the top one or two Trek series overall but it is distinct from the others.
You should force yourself through the first season or two. I promise the dominion war is worth it.
For anyone who hasn't seen it, before you get confused: First contact with the Dominion is made at the end of Season 2, though they are mentioned earlier than that. It's mostly character and setting building until then. Relations are tense for a few seasons, and hot war doesn't actually break out until Season 5 or 6. Series ran for 7 seasons.

And yes, this is the same Dominion War that was referenced in the last season of the Picard series.

I am the only Star Trek fan I know who was not a big fan of the dominion war arc. I really liked some of the later season episodes, but the arc itself was a bit of a letdown.

OTOH, DS9 is the only Star Trek that my wife will willingly watch with me; she finds the others too campy. As another data-point she likes the dominion war arc as much or more than B5, which was her favorite sci-fi series previously.

You're not alone, though maybe not for my reasons. The Next Generation's writers and directors protested the utopia that Gene Roddenberry had built in his mind, but I really appreciated the camaraderie and collaboration present within the characters. Deep Space Nine seemed to me to be a betrayal of the universe that TNG had prepared. I thought DS9 seemed very interesting as its own series, but it wasn't what I wanted as a fan of Star Trek.
Ah, but the quality was not on par with, say, Garak's works!
And yet others, at least in isolation, don't look very futuristic at all. At most just kind of awkward.