[robertlagrant]

ULEZ isn't decarbonisation. It mostly targets diesel cars due to NO. And it doesn't ban them; it just costs £12/day to drive there. So suddenly millions of drivers, who bought diesel cars because that was the thing they were supposed to buy according to the government, now own cars that are worth -£2000/year.

It might seem that everything is along political lines because you view it that way. There are non-political reasons to get annoyed at things.

[tpm]

Millions? The number of daily non-compliant cars entering the ULEZ zone went from 36k in March 2019 to 12k in December 2020 according to Wikipedia. I seriously doubt the expansion did hit millions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra_Low_Emission_Zone

[robertlagrant]

> The number of daily non-compliant cars entering the ULEZ zone went from 36k in March 2019 to 12k in December 2020 according to Wikipedia. I seriously doubt the expansion did hit millions.

ULEZ was a tiny central part of London. New ULEZ is...all of London[0].

[0] https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone/ule... - the map shows the red outlined congestion charge zone (old ULEZ) vs the new blue area (new ULEZ)

[tpm]

Yes I know, and the point is? Still no trace of millions of drivers.

[robertlagrant]

The point is the study you cite is on that tiny inner bit, compared to the giant outer bit.

[tpm]

I expressly mentioned the expansion in my original post, so it should be clear I understand the difference, and the millions are still nowhere to be found.

[extraduder_ire]

I think the implication is that wherever you have your car, it's worth less because it costs money to drive it in london, which directly affects its resale value. Pretty indirect though.

[tpm]

Sure, but that also applies only to pre-Euro 6 diesel cars, so pretty old anyway.

[robertlagrant]

7 years old. Basically it's a tax on people who don't have a new diesel. And on businesses who require vehicles to get goods in.

[extraduder_ire]

Can one not just add an after-market adblue filter onto the car to hit the emission requirements? Like, do a reverse VW on it.