[huytersd]

That’s the dilemma. Being progressive means being empathetic and a pacifist. Hauling people off the street into jail or other institutions against their will doesn’t play well with the voters. Until there is a tipping point and it does hopefully.

[hardware2win]

People dont see that some things just do not work?

[huytersd]

Well I’m a centrist so I hope people get there eventually. You need a good balance of empathy and decisive action. I think one of the flaws in the progressive mindset is that care and love can solve most issues which it most certainly can’t. That and pushing evidenceless delusions like the trans issue are the only flaws with the left right now. The right on the other hand is a hateful, regressive, conspiratorial pit of snakes with no real plan other than being against any sort of egalitarianism.

[fubnle]

> That and pushing evidenceless delusions like the trans issue are the only flaws with the left right now.

The reason they push this is because there's a particularly nasty streak of misogyny on the left, where they'll completely disregard any negative impact on women in favor of whatever benefits men.

So like the trans issue is mostly about men (who want to be women, or claim that at least) demanding and gaining access to women's spaces. Then there's the policy of trying to legitimize sex work, which basically just harms women for the sexual benefit of men. Also there's the whole issue of uncritical support for Islam, despite it being the most horribly misogynistic religion out there.

For those of us leftists who aren't misogynists, it's a real uphill battle having to deal with these assholes, especially when they try to claim that their beliefs are 'progressive' despite being anything but that, and that anyone who disagrees is doing so because of 'hate'. It's very frustrating.

[pauldenton]

Sort of like Feminists looking at how women are treated in Muslim majority countries in the Middle East, how they are treated in Israel, and then square the circle of who deserves sympathy and who doesn't. Sort of like people who claim to be women's advocates and enact policies that make women afraid to go out after dark.