[chx]

> there is risk here. if this goes in front of the wrong judge, we could be in trouble

This is it.

I find it a compelling argument there is tremendous risk to AGPL if Google says so. They not only talk the talk but walk the walk: Google just indemnified AI (C) without limits putting 1.7 trillion dollars behind that statement. The same company said "nah, we are afraid of AGPL".

[josephcsible]

The AGPL is risky for Google because Google is in the business of making and hosting proprietary software.

[chx]

I wonder truly, is there any company above say 300 employees which does not have custom software.

[josephcsible]

The issue isn't that they have custom software. The issue is that their business model relies on their custom software being proprietary, and that's true of way fewer companies.