[nvm0n2]

There is a large strain of "research" that tells public health authorities whatever they want to hear.

Raw case rates normalized by pop size from the UK: vaccinated people were getting COVID at 3x-4x the rate of the unvaccinated by the time they stopped reporting the figures. Natural immunity was actually much better than the vaccine because it developed whole-virus protection to all the proteins not just the spike, so you don't get Hoskin's Effect and variants find it harder to evade.

[selcuka]

> vaccinated people were getting COVID at 3x-4x the rate of the unvaccinated by the time they stopped reporting the figures.

Citation needed.

[canoebuilder]

https://twitter.com/tlowdon/status/1496894355621113857

This guy documented it really well.

You'll have to sign in to look at his other posts.

Just search "uk infection rates" or some such on his profile.

from:tlowdon uk infection rates

[selcuka]

> This guy documented it really well.

Nothing in his analysis is right. First, he uses that infection stats for a variant (Omicron), but the vaccine targeted the origina known to be less effective against it. So technically speaking, assuming that most unvaccinated people were infected (and some died) with other variants by then, they were better prepared against Omicron. Not making and distributing an Omicron-specific vaccine was a logistics issue, not a technical one.

That being said, remember that Omicron turned out to be a relatively less lethal variant, so being vaccinated was a net win, because a percentage of anti-vaccine people died with the original virus, and the Delta variant while trying to gain natural immunisation against it. We can't compare the risks of vaccination and actually getting sick.

Second, he is comparing case numbers (not deaths, or hospitalisations), which won't work, because it only demonstrates that vaccinated people are more likely to go and get tested when they feel sick, and unvaccinated people are less likely as anti-vaccine community (I know that not all unvaccinated people are anti-vaccine) generally don't think that they have a responsibility to keep other people safe.

[samirillian]

Lol, for the record, this is why I didn't make a claim one way or the other.