[WalterBright]

> leading us to believe that the past was more like the present than it in truth was

So what? I just don't get this. Can't we just enjoy a much improved film experience?

> so we can connect to their recorded legacy, and removing sociological barriers, which we probably want to preserve.

Nobody is suggesting destroying the originals.

[kouru225]

What they’re saying is that it’s your opinion that that would be an improved experience, and that’s not an objective opinion that other people share.

[kortilla]

But what’s the point then? If you’re going to make fake videos might as well just generate a completely new one with actors.

[WalterBright]

Would you rather see a colorized picture of your grandma or a color picture of another woman?

[kortilla]

If the colors are just someone guessing I would honestly not want to see it. I find those kind of wishful fantasies harmful. Not much different than when favorite book is converted to a movie and actors stomp out your imagined characters.

If you hadn’t had a picture of your grandma at all, would you want AI to generate one based on a description of her and tell you it’s a picture of your grandma?

[WalterBright]

There is a short movie on Google which is a film of a train rolling into a station, and then the same one sharpened by AI. The second one is marvelous to watch.

There's another of a colorized ancient movie of a trolley ride in Europe. It's very fun to watch.

Ya know, when people restore old cars, if they want to drive them, they'll usually do a few upgrades to make the car safer and more driveable. And there's nothing wrong with that.

I'm curious. Do you ever watch and enjoy movies from the 20's and 30's? For the silent flicks, do you think that the music played during the screening by some random starving artist plinking on a crummy piano or squeaking away on a violin is part of the "vision" of the director?

Lots of people today simply turn away from any movie that is black and white.

[kortilla]

“Fun to watch” and “historically accurate” are different things.

We’re not that far away from doing things like have AI remove “icky cigarettes” and “poisonous alcohol” to make it lots of fun for zoomers to watch.

[bredren]

I’d like to see rolling data on how people are turning away from lower quality media. Or what premium is being placed on 720p+ video versus standard.

There’s a reason video sites offer a filter for HD and YouTube videos get keyword stuffed for 8k even when they aren’t.

I am very curious how Apple’s spatial video lands.

From reviewer descriptions, the experience is such a major change from standard HD video I am wondering if depthscaling “old” video will become a thing too.

[WalterBright]

Personally, I find the constant breaking of the flow in a silent movie so the dialog card can be shown very irritating after a while. It's also annoying that the card is shown for too long (for slow readers) and there's a fair amount of dialog you can lip read that is not on the cards.

I seriously doubt dialog cards are part of any director's "vision".

The bad music slapped on the DVDs is also a serious turnoff. Music easily makes or breaks a movie. For example, the music on Lord of the Rings adds greatly to my enjoyment of it. The Hobbit music is utterly forgettable, and makes the poor movie even worse.

For another example, the movie "Hawaii" has a most excellent music soundtrack. Its sequel, "The Hawaiians", has a completely forgettable soundtrack, which contributes to the movie falling flat on its face.

I suspect much of "Star Wars" success came from the music.

[b112]

If the colors are just someone guessing I would honestly not want to see it. I find those kind of wishful fantasies harmful

I think disclosure is high priority here. If you know it's been cleaned up, and colourized, then you can watch it as you would the original.

Because, what I think people are saying here is that older cameras already have made the equivalent of "someone guessing". The framerate is variable and jumps, the colour is off and variable, rhe film is degraded, and even the people in the films act quite unnatural, for they are very aware of being filmed.

I get what you mean about authenticity, but I think full disclosure takes care of that.

[thsksbd]

Another woman than a fake grandma

[iancmceachern]

Because it's not real, red pill man