[Loughla]

I had to supplement with calorie shakes for workout guys in my 20's, just to maintain weight. I ate trash, and a shit load of it. And that's not considering the amazing levels of calories I would've consumed from alcohol.

Same activity level now as then. But now if I think too hard about a candy bar I gain weight that never goes away.

[willcipriano]

> Same activity level now as then.

As you go from untrained to trained you burn less calories doing the same activity.

[bennyelv]

It's actually nowhere near as simple as that, and it depends on how you define the "same activity".

Moving your body from one location to another at a particular speed results in a fairly static amount of work done (in the basic physics sense). So if the same you hops on a bicycle and cycles up the same hill in the same conditions with the only difference being that one of you has trained hard for the last 5 years and the other hasn't (but somehow your body mass has stayed the same) then you'll burn exactly the same amount of energy. Untrained you will find it much harder, but the energy burn will be roughly the same.

There are some things that can be different as you go from "untrained" to "trained", for example lighter people burn less energy moving themselves around than heavier people. Trained people tend to do activities harder/faster so the "same activity" could actually be a much harder activity despite it not feeling that way. Although if the activity involves travelling a set distance some of the extra effort involved in doing it faster is offset by the fact that it takes less time, so the difference between the two is not as large as you'd think.

[paulpauper]

same here. the hockey-stick or v-shaped weight rebound if I even deviate a tiny bit. amazing how fast weight comes back on.