[gonzaloalvarez]

I have my car (Subaru) hooked to an automation with home assistant. Several, actually. I can start the car in winter by pushing a button in my kitchen, heat it up, and then walk there. But the most important one is that I can turn the car off remotely as well, based on timers and automations. I generally don’t buy the ‘we should not allow this or that because it can be dangerous’. I’m a big boy. Driving is even more dangerous always. Let me choose. Please.

[jabroni_salad]

Here's a really fun one from yesterday's 'midwit' thread:

> I have somehow automated some lights to come on too early in the morning but the specific task/automation I set to do this is nowhere to be found.. I can create and remove new tasks but I'm being haunted by this old task.

Do you have an attached garage? How about if it gets turned on with the door closed at 4am after a daylight savings changeover gone horribly wrong. I enjoy my home assistant but I wouldn't let it control something that can gas me. I've seen way too much weird shit in my iot network to ever trust it with that.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37859813

[londons_explore]

You'll be pleased to know that pretty much no post 2005 car can gas you.

Old cars gassed people with carbon monoxide. Odorless and deadly.

Modern cars make basically none of that. Instead, you'll die of too much CO2.

Luckily, humans are pretty good at detecting gradually increasing levels of CO2 - it's what happens when 5 people are in a car together and someone says "it's getting stuffy in here, turn the vent on!".

Sudden CO2 increases can still kill. But gradual ones like a car gradually producing more and more CO2 likely wouldn't. Even in your sleep, you will wake up and find the air stuffy (it can happen when lots of cave people are all sleeping in a badly ventilated cave, so we evolved to handle it).

However, you shouldn't rely on the above for the safety of people - all it takes is someone to be drunk or taking sleeping pills, and they might not be able to act on their senses... Also, cars where the emissions system has been tampered with or faulty can still produce a lot of deadly carbon monoxide.

[jabroni_salad]

Man, I live in snow country and every year someone gets killed idling in the winter. Kids idling and hanging out or someone parked eating their lunch. It's true that CO emissions are way down since the mid-aughts rules went in, but it isn't 0 ppm.

The last go-around about the keyless ignitions was kicked off by a 2017 toyota. The story was from 2019

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/28/business/keyless-carbon-m...

[bombcar]

It’s common enough that I’m surprised garage door openers don’t have alarms/ automatic opening.