[hatf0]

When has the number of dependencies ever directly correlated with the feature set of an application? Have you ever looked at a node_modules folder? More over, how is that relevant in any way? This argument against dependencies has always felt like weird NIH-ism spawned out of the same crowd who still thinks that C is a good programming language. Have fun reinventing the wheel, but I’ll take my dependencies to go.

Additionally, you’re conflating an OIDC server with a full IdP, which Hydra explicitly is not. I don’t need a full identity provider with support for user profile pictures and a pretty UI if all I’m doing is controlling access to API endpoints via OAuth2 client credentials. I already have an identity provider, and I’m not foolish enough to think that I should host one myself.

You’re completely correct in that you are not the intended demographic if you don’t understand the utility of the Ory stack, and that’s okay.

[apitman]

Dependencies are correlated with complexity in my mind. This is based on my experience, which may be different from yours. My experience with node_modules is actually where I started to become wary of dependencies and try to minimize them in my code. You definitely to be careful of NIH. I find sometimes a better approach is just to cut features.

I think I understand the utilty of the Ory stack. Looks like some excellent kit doing excellent work for a lot of people. But it didn't solve my problems.