[joeman1000]

The difference is that you’re cocooned in a tonne of steel, hurtling along at speeds which kill pedestrians. The onus is on both parties to be vigilant, but it’s more on you as a driver. As soon as you get over this entitled view, like the road is your own little go-kart track, it’s so much easier to drive safely. I used to hold the same view until I started walking regularly and could understand how much the game is tipped towards cars. Their environment is unescapable and every time you interact with a road as a ped. there’s a huge chance you might die. There’s nearly no chance you’ll die by hitting a pedestrian as you drive. Just drive slower and pay more attention. It’s just not that bloody hard at all.

[jeremy_wiebe]

Contrary to your characterization of me, I’m a cautious driver. What in my post led you to believe I’m entitled?

> Their environment is unescapable and every time you interact with a road as a ped. there’s a huge chance you might die.

I’m not excusing bad driving, but when I walk, this is plenty enough reason for me to be doubly cautious. I don’t trust any driver until they’ve stopped.

[robertlagrant]

> As soon as you get over this entitled view, like the road is your own little go-kart track

This view was not espoused by the OP. You've made it up for some reason.

[joeman1000]

They’re complaining about pedestrians not being vigilant. I’m saying drive slower and more carefully, fully expecting that peds will carelessly cross the road, and there will be fewer issues.

[robertlagrant]

We agree that you did make up the "go-kart" nonsense.

On responsibility - each party has one. Don't stumble across streets glued to your phone; don't drive recklessly. There's no point pretending one is the real responsibility. It just adds noise.