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by pmontra 977 days ago
> the roman empire literally killed people who invented new things because the emperors thought it would have put too many people out of work

This is news to me. Could you give at least an example?

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i'll quote this quora question for you

https://www.quora.com/Who-was-the-Roman-emperor-who-was-show...

question: Who was the Roman emperor who was shown an invention and had the inventor executed?

answer from andrew kirk:

"I think you are thinking of Vespasian. An inventor came to him with a way to transport columns to the Capitol at a low cost—that is, he offered a labor-saving device. Vespasian turned him down, saying, “How will I feed my people?”

It highlights that the point of government works was to create jobs and distribute money; efficiency was not a priority. Vespasian thought it would just throw people out of work and create civil unrest.

This may be the main reason the Roman Empire never industrialized; they had plenty of inventions, but they didn’t put them into practice except in rare cases. The emperor was more interested in being the ultimate patron than advancing the economy, which was not really a concept anyway. You get money by taxing conquered lands, not by increasing efficiency.

By the way, he rewarded the inventor—hint, hint, give out money, show gratitude, etc. to be the best and greatest patron. He didn’t kill him."

so i was wrong about the killing part afaik

The following is an ancient Roman story that Romans told each other about Rome. It is doubtlessly fictional but reveals the perception Romans had about their own society:

A man invented a new kind of glass that wouldn't shatter. He brought a challace made of this glass to the emperor for a demonstration, and threw it to the ground. Instead of shattering, it merely bent. Then he hammered it back into shape. The emperor was very impressed and asked if he had told anybody else the secret to making this glass. The inventor said he had not. Then the emperor ordered him killed on the spot.

Pliny the Elder tells this story. He says he doesn't believe it actually happened, but that it was a popular story in Rome.