[notpachet]

There's complexity and then there's complexity. Your end user experience as a Discord user may be simpler on its face, but it's reliant on a lot of obfuscated complexity under the hood. You wouldn't be able to, say, send Discord messages using telnet, the way you can with IRC. Discord's simplicity in setting up an account, joining servers, having scrollback, etc comes at the cost of other types of simplicity.

People in this thread are talking past each other without realizing that they are expressing different preferences about where complexity belongs in a tool.

(For the record, I happen to be on the IRC / git mailing list side of the spectrum.)

[LudwigNagasena]

“Obfuscated complexity” aka good UX that decreases friction and increases velocity.

[notpachet]

Again, friction and velocity of what? It's a lot easier for me to write an IRC bot than a Discord bot. But other things are much harder to do with IRC. People are looking at different vectors.

[BaculumMeumEst]

your parens enclose the most unneeded addendum i have ever seen

[notpachet]

That's surely hyperbole. You can just say "This is unnecessary" and it achieves the same purpose. Maximalist comments like this tend to amplify the tension in these sorts of discussions.

[BaculumMeumEst]

yes it is hyperbole