[djha-skin]

> not only drive away a significant number of potential contributors,

It drives away the kind of people who have little patience for technology problems and little patience for learning new things.

I don't want those kind of people working on e.g. Git. Git needs people who have lots of patience for technology problems and lots of patience for learning new things.

[fodkodrasz]

> It drives away the kind of people who have little patience for technology problems and little patience for learning new things.

like learning to use a GUI and a Web Interface?

[scbrg]

It's not really that people can't use them. It's that they're slow, annoying, hard/impossible to automate, hard/impossible to customize and give you RSI.

We've seen Web interfaces, they're hard to avoid. We've just decided that they're worse.

[fodkodrasz]

Could you, for a moment, imagine that others might feel like that about the command-line-plain-text-email-to-mailing-list workflows? Possibly not, as you have labelled them

> the kind of people who have little patience for technology problems and little patience for learning new things

Also tell me how is tolerating rude incumbents of mailing list sending email with 50+ characters in a line a technical problem? (Yes they are often rude, and unwelcoming to those attempting to accept their anachronistic ways. You are demonstrating that specific behaviour right here, which many of us have encountered on those projects.)

I think the projects which accept contributions only from mailing lists will have their contributors die out, or will be forced to change their ways to survive. I for one will never again attempt to contribute to such project, thanks to the inflexibility of the incumbents I have faced several times. Also thanks to the sub-par review workflow, usually the lacking quick CI feedback.

Web UI might give you RSI, but the insufferable email-only-patches people give me PTSD from my previous encounters.

ps: if you are willing to learn new things, you can automate web apps and GUI apps (eg. Autoit, xaut). Some even have proper APIs (COM/dbus/web api), or a cli!

[scbrg]

> Possibly not, as you have labelled them

>> the kind of people who have little patience for technology problems and little patience for learning new things

No, I haven't.

You're making an awful lot of shit up about me. All I said is that I've tried the Web UI:s and didn't particularly like them. Speaking of rude.

[bitcharmer]

No, it drives away people who don't want to develop in vim or emacs and prefer to use modern tools instead.

[softirq]

What isn't modern about neovim or emacs 29? Does a tool have to be graphical to be modern?

[ravi-delia]

VSCode actually also supports using git send-email. All you need to do is work on your code in exactly the same way, then use git send-email.

[tmpX7dMeXU]

Oh please. Lots of people, myself included, take issue with having to answer your riddles three before I may cross the bridge that you value much more than I do.

There’s having patience and problem-solving ability, and there’s not seeing the value in jumping through the various hoops that comprise some ‘90s Internet fetishist’s playground.

This is all just code for “I’m old, set in my ways, and don’t appreciate the fact that the only reason I find my workflow easier is because I know it, not because it’s more intuitive than what people are doing these days”.