[Urgo]

Been using Duck Duck Go for maybe three or so years now? It's very rare I fallback to google other then for google maps (!gm). I do make heavy use of ChatGPT and Bard though.

I wish there was more example results then just "best headphones", "steve jobs", and "python exceptions". I'm interested, but not interested enough to sign up. Maybe its just me, but all the marketing and comments are why to switch away from google search.. which I already did.

There is a docs page[1] on Kagi vs. DuckDuckGo but it doesn't really have any compelling reason to use Kagi from that. I'd love to see concrete examples of how Kagi has better results then DDG.

[1] https://help.kagi.com/kagi/why-kagi/kagi-vs-duckduckgo.html

[smcleod]

I’ve found Kagis search results far better than DDG, not even in the same ballpark.

[Urgo]

If you could provide screen shots or a writeup of HOW they are better that would be helpful. Kogi fans just seems to say its better without really any examples. Not saying its not better, but no one has really shown how it is better.

[ncallaway]

Search isn’t really something I can show you one result to say it’s better.

I just use it for a week and feel the difference.

Magi has a free trial of 100 searches. Sign up and try it. I did, and when I ran out of my 100 searches, I went and got my credit card and paid $5/month.

When I tried DDG, I ended up back at Google within a week.

I can’t actually explain how it’s better, other than to encourage you to try it and see for yourself. If you run out of searches and don’t feel it’s better, then you can go back to DDG

[Urgo]

> When I tried DDG, I ended up back at Google within a week.

I think actually you might have explained it. It's for people who don't want to use Google, but who didn't like DDG.

This is why I ask for more examples to be provided from Kagi because they claim DDG isn't good, just good enough, where as I've been quite happy with DDG results for years now.

[EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK]

You don't have to end up back to Google, there is, for example, Startpage, with the same privacy claims as DDG, but backed up by Goggle, instead of Bing.

[ocdtrekkie]

The article addresses a huge aspect: It's customizable. I frequently know I'm looking for say, a learn.microsoft.com page. So if I boost that domain, and one of the results is on that site, it moves towards the top of the page. My results are explicitly better for me because I am able to tell the search engine what I want to see.

[wolverine876]

In most search engines, including Google and DDG, you could input,

  <search-term> site:learn.microsoft.com

It restricts results to that domain.

[ocdtrekkie]

Sure, but that's time consuming and often too specific: Kagi lets me push sites I trust results from higher without limiting the search to a specific single site. It also explicitly looks to rank blogs by individuals higher than corporate websites, so it's more likely to surface that niche how-to by someone else who has been there.

[stjohnswarts]

Takes me less than a second or two to type site:<whatever> in ddg, I'll survive. It has been sufficient for me.

[JohnFen]

Sure, but what's more helpful than that is being able to blacklist sites from the results and being able to say that certain sites should be given greater weight, which Kagi allows.

[dankwizard]

I mean its a search engine what are you expecting?

More often than not, their search results are returning useable links.

People aren't going to write an essay as to the nuances.

[smcleod]

I haven’t opened Google in a few years but I’ll try to remember to compare some results and provide you screenshots tomorrow or this weekend. I’m surprised others haven’t already done this!

[Urgo]

> I haven’t opened Google in a few years but I’ll try to remember to compare some results and provide you screenshots tomorrow or this weekend. I’m surprised others haven’t already done this!

I've seen a lot of people give concrete examples on how Kagi is worse in different situations, but yeah no real good solid examples of how its better. If you're doing a compare, please compare with DuckDuckGo as well. That is the one I use and am most interested in. Thank you!

[xigoi]

As a specific example, when searching something about the web, I want to see MDN in the first place. Kagi seems to be the only search engine which can do that.

[reportgunner]

How can you find the searches better if I find what I'm looking for every time I search ?

[smcleod]

I found the quality of DDG searches really quite poor - worse than Google even. Not so much sponsored content but it’s like it lacked understanding of the context of what I was searching for which is something I find Kagi does well.

[Semaphor]

I also can’t understand the issues with DDG. There were some issues, but they were rare. And at least for Germany, local search was also good. Used it for several years as main driver, with !g being a rather rare escape hatch.

With Kagi, I simply get slightly less spam, and slightly more relevant results (than either with DDG or Google). With every search. And even when I get a bad result, it’s one click to downrank or even block that domain.

[JohnFen]

Kagi has a free tier. Maybe just give it a shot and see if it works better for you?