[dzhiurgis]

Rivian, Lucid and Mercedes if you want to pay 3x for somewhat better build but somewhat worse software.

I agree tho long term at lower end there’s just no way anyone can compete (except in cars of anti-software or anti-feature).

[FireBeyond]

> for somewhat better build

Somewhat? The build quality of a Tesla, even a Model S, resembles that of a Corolla at best. The dash creaks, there's unexplained rattles, the wind howls if things aren't sealed properly, and if you try to address anything with a Service Center you often get told 1) they can't find it, or 2) they found it, but it's "within spec".

[dzhiurgis]

I'm more of referring to materials, although later generation (Y and 3) seem to be using softer plastics tho some rattles are still there. I haven't driven Corolla for a while, but compared to decade old Mazda - only real leather is what I miss, else it's like every car 3 decades before.

Ultimately you have your choice tho.

[Moldoteck]

some ppl say teslas built in germany have better quality compared to us ones