[lazide]

And yet, most people somehow never get DUIs. Weird, isn’t it?

[kiba]

If it was easy to live in a society without drunk driving, then it would be done. Saying that some people don't get a DUI conviction is tantamount tolerating the conditions our society is in.

[lazide]

For some reason, I only ever hear this argument from folks with DUIs.

Near as I can tell, approximately 1% of licensed drivers get arrested for DUI a year, and most have repeat offenses.

That doesn’t strike me as any more of a society wide ‘impossible’ issue than anything else?

One thing I have noticed though - problem drinkers are amazing at making it always someone else’s fault.

[kiba]

For some reason, I only ever hear this argument from folks with DUIs.

For the record, I don't drink.

One thing I have noticed though - problem drinkers are amazing at making it always someone else’s fault.

It is their fault and they also have an addiction problem. And it is also a societal wide problem.

[lazide]

Thanks for adding that data point at least!

There are many society wide problems, all with various trade offs and costs to ‘fix’. (I added quotes, because in most cases I suspect a real actual fix is impossible - merely moving things around into another category or changing how the underlying situation presents itself).

There are also many different individual choices one can make, with relative tradeoffs.

How would you rate illegal drug use/overdose deaths relative to DUIs for instance? What solutions (and related costs) do you think would be necessary to ‘solve’ the DUI problem? How about obesity? How about heart disease?

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db457.htm

You’ll find comments in this post complaining about getting DUIs in the most walkable cities in the world, and on bicycles too.

We could ban all alcohol - would that solve it? Historically, the answer is a solid no.