[tormeh]

Anyone that believes humans are inherently special will always believe that and their mind cannot be changed. Debating with them is a waste of time.

[vidarh]

There are wide ranges of strength in peoples beliefs. I'm sure some can never be convinced, but for others it's a question of chipping away at why, and how they would define reasoning in ways that categorically excludes machines but not a significant portion of people.

[tormeh]

It usually boils down to religion. I don't think converting people to atheism has a high ROI.

[vidarh]

Well, sometimes it's just interesting to dig into and sometimes it has an effect. In this case I think it also extends past formal religion and to a broader more vague spiritual wish to see us as more than automatons. But religious views certainly tend to leave people with less flexible views on it.

[bayindirh]

That's a very nice take. Putting certain kind of people into a fixed frame, while having an equally, if not stronger fixed frame around itself.

Firm, generalizing and enjoyable, because of the way it's flawed from beginning to end.

I don't expect to be able to debate this with you, because this comment says that you can't change your mind, too.

[tormeh]

I'll change my mind if you show me a higher power and that higher power personally tells me that humans are inherently special. No prophets, no texts, no metaphors, no sunsets. A personal meeting with a God. Considering the Christian God is supposedly omnipresent, this should be a very low bar to clear.