[thriftwy]

We do not have to use DDT till the end of times, but we do have to try newer and newer things. Including carbon neutral living, it's just that it looks more like pointless religious practice now.

Art is great. Let's always be trying to discover newer forms of art.

It turns out their way of progressing did not bear friut and peasant societies were much faster. That's life.

[fodkodrasz]

Maybe we should not rush to start large scale application of every and each fad, in the name of progress, without any thought on wider consequences.

Why are you only obsessed with new things? Why cannot the legacy be cultivated?

It turns out that pastoral life did bear its fruits, you simply dismiss those. For one, the most important fruit: those people are still around. No that is life, not "progress for the sake of progress".

[thriftwy]

I absolutely agree with you, we do not need to do anything in the name of progress.

Legacy absolutely should be cultivated and remembered. But never at the cost of rejecting further motion.

Pastoral life was great why it was going on (even remembering all the raids and slavery stuff), but then it could not go on anymore since peasants learned how to build walls and posts and forts. And had a good reason to do so.