[gumballindie]

There really is nothing intellectually stimulating in learning that there is misery out there and that you too can fail. A cat can tell you that there's misery out there. What's interesting is knowing how to build things and get out of said misery. If you surround yourself with stories about losers you'll think that there are only losers out there and you'll get stuck. This is a forum about hackers and hacking a way out is far more interesting than constant posting about "survivorship bias". I want to learn stories about how people, small or large, build things that matter - not just plumb APIs and "hack" a new language. Those are cool too but those aren't the only "problems" that need solving. And indeed there are forums dedicated to that but I want to hear is the more "scientific" side of making commercially successful things, and like me there are plenty - but some have been alienated by this boring mindsent.

[penjelly]

parent mentioned survivorbias as a precaution for those who think its their destiny to make 20k/month after reading the OP.

> This is a forum about hackers and hacking a way out

yes, and as such you'll run into the folks with opinions on either side of the discussion, how is that not more intellectually stimulating than the alternative?