[djmips]

I feel it's unfair to include Mattrick in here - he came up as a gamer, making games as a teen and rolling that into his own company so at least he has roots as a developer and I feel a dev/gamer connection but I respect your opinion.

[cojo]

I think yours is a fair opinion as well, to be clear - I actually debated editing him out for a couple of minutes after I first posted, because I do know that his background was truly heavy on the gamedev side of things early in his career.

I have my reasons for thinking things changed later on, but they are subjective / personal opinion based on personal experience, so I respect anyone who would disagree and exclude him from a list like this.