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by master-lincoln 988 days ago
Yeah, but normally taking money from investors means they want growth and a return on their investment which often skews business decisions to get quick money at some point. This often leads to an enshittified product. It seems unrealistic to make millions of dollars in short time in return for a simple product that already exists in many variants even for free. So people believe the product will suffer which makes the users suffer.
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da39a3ee 988 days ago
> Yeah, but normally taking money from investors [...] often skews business decisions [...] This often leads to an enshittified product.

Wow, I'm glad we've got you here to point out that the startup model doesn't work!

I don't understand why this thread on HTTPie has led to so much low quality teenagerish anti-commercial rhetoric; this is far below normal HN standards.

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master-lincoln 987 days ago
> Wow, I'm glad we've got you here to point out that the startup model doesn't work!

You asked why there is so much criticism to them taking so much investor money and I tried to explain. I don't understand why you react snarky.

I would also argue many comments are not anti-commercial but anti greed.

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da39a3ee 987 days ago
I reacted snarkily because you appeared to be giving a one-sentence criticism of the entire model of startup investment. Doesn't that seem much too large a topic, and too well-established an aspect of modern economies, to dismiss in such a shallow manner?

Is it greedy to accept large amounts of money that an investor offers you? It had never occurred to me to think of it that way. I think of it as being fortunate to be in a position where someone says "I'll give you lots of funding to start a software company". That sounds to me like an exciting opportunity that's definitely worth taking, but apparently you think it's greed?

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master-lincoln 986 days ago
> "I'll give you lots of funding to start a software company

But in this case there was a mildly successful company that didn't seem to need that much money to fulfill their business plan. That is the direction I was aiming at. So they took more than they needed (greed) but didn't get it for free, but with expectations from investors that might not align with the original companies goals.

My critique went into the direction of taking more money than your plan needs.

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