[fiddlerwoaroof]

I personally find that configuring vanilla emacs isn’t that scary. evil-mode + evil-collection provide most of the hard part of these distributions and I’ve found that growing from a minimal setup makes it easier to maintain your configuration than building on top of doom or spacemacs

[soraminazuki]

Doom Emacs is minimal. You can configure it in pretty much the same way as vanilla Emacs without it getting in the way. I never felt my configuration was harder to maintain because of Doom. There are also modules you can enable that brings in a lot of packages, but they're purely optional. Personally, I find those modules to be sane and helpful.

Also, adding evil mode won't address half of my requirements for a baseline Emacs experience. There are performance optimizations in Doom that I wouldn't otherwise have known to put in my own configuration. I'm grateful there are people who are taking care of such details for users like me.

Normally, I avoid configuration frameworks. I don't use them in tmux, vim, or zsh. But Doom was the first configuration framework that I enjoyed using.

[fiddlerwoaroof]

My configuration is 3k lines of lisp code (measured by cloc). Doom is about 44k. So, Doom's configuration is about 12 times large than mine and my configuration works for just about everything I need. Adding support for a new language is typically mostly figuring out how to get a language server and configuring eglot for it, then installing syntax-highlighting either via tree-sitter or with (use-package <language>-mode :ensure t). Addtitionally, just skimming doom's early-init.el[1], it makes a lot of questionable choices (like requiring the use of `doom sync` for stuff emacs just does by itself).

[1]: https://github.com/doomemacs/doomemacs/blob/master/early-ini...

[soraminazuki]

That LOC comparison doesn't make sense. It's 44k lines only if you enable every optional module, which no one ever does. On top of that, you're penalizing Doom for having better documentation by counting docstrings. Docstrings account for a large portion of Doom Emacs code.

Also, there are loads of people who need the things you found questionable or unnecessary. Including myself. I use modules for purposes other than adding support for new languages. But for language support, I sometimes need much more than just the first language server and syntax files that came up in a search result. The performance optimization you found questionable is an absolute must, too. Running "doom sync" to apply changes to configuration is a non-issue if that means faster startup.