[fnordpiglet]

I wouldn’t go this far, but I would say the “a lot of humans can’t either” argument in LLM convos is a bit worn now. Where it’s true (hallucinating on the edges of certain knowledge, solving math and logical reasoning through approximation and most likely thinking) and where it’s not, it’s all been said already many times.

The key though is that in these things “most humans” isn’t a very useful comment when the discussion is “all AI.” The comment, even if true, acknowledges there exists some humans that do, doesn’t refuse that all AI don’t, so doesn’t advance much of the discussion. In a parallel comment I pointed out that all humans can even if they don’t appear to, then further assert all humans have even if they don’t appear to currently or consistently, so they exist as distinct classes in this space of thinking and reasoning from generative AI.