[arrowsmith]

It's a tough market for Elixir devs at the moment - there seem to be a lot more people who want to work with Elixir than there are companies hiring for it. But on the flipside, that means if you're a company who wants to take a chance on Elixir, there are lots of available devs to hire!

Personally, I'm comfortable betting my career on Elixir at the moment. It's too goddamn good to remain a niche language - I expect it to get a lot bigger in the years ahead as more companies and devs fall in love with it. It'll happen slowly, and it's never going to reach the level of saturation that that, say, Javascript has, but I think it has a bright future.

Phoenix and LiveView are a joy to work with, much more so than any previous technology I've used. I haven't yet looked at any of the exciting new ML stuff that's happening in the Elixir world (Nx etc.) but hopefully they'll drive adoption too. I'm never going back to my old ways.

[cschmatzler]

Allow me to disagree. Finding good engineers that are knowledgeable with Elixir has been difficult to the point that we’ve hired people that never professionally used the language to senior positions. That’s not a problem on its own, since the language is mostly easy to learn, but there definitely is no abundance.

[arrowsmith]

Try posting your job ad on the Elixir Slack (elixir-lang.slack.com) - there's a lot of jobseekers in there.

(I think the only way to join the Slack atm is to be manually invited because the signup app got broken by Heroku's pricing changes - but if you email the address in my profile then I'll ask someone to invite you.)

[julienmarie]

The craziest thing with Elixir is that you can do things all by yourself in the same time that would normally take a big team and consequent infrastructure to do.

[arrowsmith]

As someone who's spent the bulk of his career in Rails and then Phoenix, to me it's the other way around: everything else is just so goddamn slow and unproductive. Don't people realise that it doesn't have to be like this?

[revscat]

Wait, are you saying that you are more productive in Rails than in Phoenix? That seems to be the opposite of what the consensus view in this thread is.

[arrowsmith]

No, I'm saying that I'm more productive in either Rails or Phoenix than I am in anything else.

(And of the two, I'm more productive in Phoenix, but I didn't mention that in the comment you're replying to.)

[going_north]

I'm reading it as "Rails and Phoenix is more productive than other technologies".

[arrowsmith]

Yes.

[metaltyphoon]

You are more productive on the thing you know the most. Shocking