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by PeterStuer 987 days ago
I have done this. Many years ago I was forced to work with a terrible laptop. It was one of those Dell 5cm thick things that were basically cramming a desktop cpu and gpu into someting that looked like someone had bolted a second box undeneeth a standard laptop. Fans ofc screeming loudly all day. So I had the brilliant idea to just run everyting of an external drive so that when I could work from home, I could seamlessly switch to a better computer.

Now the powerbrick for the laptop from hell was also huge and heavy (I remember the total package was over 4.5 kg, and the battery lasted 80 minutes when new, so you always needed wallpower), but it had the exact with and lenght of the exteral drive cage. So fancy me had the great idea that when I tidied up my desk putting the drive on top of the powerbrick, ofc neatly allingned with the desk edges, looked perfect.

Perfect until the drive crashed hard due to being right on top of the very hot powerbrick. All code was checked into subversion, but the 127 pages of a product manual I had been writing the last week were gone without backup.

Having come across the freezer method, I decided to give it a try. Nicely sealed in a ziplock freezer bag, I left the drive in overnight. Tried booting it up the next morning without success. Put it back in the freezer on a whim, but had to start writing the manual anew and forgot a out the drive.

I came across the drive again while fetching some peas from the freezer a few weeks later. Gave it another try, and lo and behold, it worked!

Learned my lesson about excess heat on drives and no nightly backups though, so never needed this procedure again.

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Pro tip: Install the cables on the drive before putting it in the freezer inside the ziplock bag. Close the bag with duct tape or something to stop air getting in. Then when you take it out to use it, keep the drive in the bag and just plug in the cables. Keeping the frozen drive in the bag will prevent the instant condensation the moment you remove it from the freezer.

Double pro tip (I've done this): Forget the freezer. Put the drive a bag, with cables hanging out. Then immerse the drive/bag in a bucket of ice water. That keeps it cool even while being used. Just be careful to keep the cables away from the water. Last time I did this I used a garbage bag large enough that I didn't need to seal anything.

> Fans ofc screeming loudly all day.

Once I worked in a small office and we used ancient but silent servers and we needed new ones. We had a rack in one of the rooms, so without thinking I bought two new rack servers. Worst decision ever.

They were screaming loud. You could hear them in all the offices. Temperature in that room went up to 45°C. In the end we could store them somewhere in a closet and ignore the noise.

The massive noise difference between brands, models, and generations of rack servers is astounding to me. I have five rack servers in my house, not in a closet. Three are Dell R620s, one is a Supermicro X9, and one is a Supermicro X11. The Dells are 1Us and by all rights should be screamers, but they aren't. The Supermicros are 2Us, and while they weren't screamers, they were loud enough that on the one that's on 24/7 (the X11), I swapped the PSUs for quieter models, the CPU fan for a Noctua, and throttled the case fans. When the X9 boots up to ingest ZFS snapshots, you can definitely tell it's there.

I used to think the R620s being bizarrely quiet was because homelab loads are understandably small, but then one day I got well over half the cores to 100% sustained doing something, and it didn't get any louder. I know they _can_ get loud, because at boot the fans go to 100%.

> but the 127 pages of a product manual I had been writing the last week were gone without backup.

This hurts just reading it. How'd it go in the end?

> I came across the drive again while fetching some peas from the freezer a few weeks later. Gave it another try, and lo and behold, it worked!
By then the deadline could’ve flown by.
Rewrote the manual from scratch I'm afraid. Second time went faster ofc. Still, a lott of needless double work.
This kind of experience is hard to replicate therefore hard to learn without the suggestion, thanks for sharing
Replacing the thermal paste usually helps.