[wernercd]

So the answer to "rent seeking vampire insurance companies" is a rent seeking vampire government agency?

No thank you.

The answer to government created problems isn't a government created department.

All you have to do is look at all of history to see the results of increased government power. Look at the lies of the unaffordable care act. look at the fact that things the government promises as "free" become unaffordable and worse.

[fallingknife]

I'm very anti government / anti bureaucracy. But in this case it is hard to argue with results. The European system is simply more efficient at delivering healthcare. Here's a really long and detailed report showing why I'm right: https://www.mckinsey.com/~/media/mckinsey/industries/healthc...

But you don't need to worry, it's politically impossible to get rid of the healthcare industrial complex which is 5x the size of the more frequently cited military industrial complex.

[jackblemming]

So what’s your solution then?

[wernercd]

Free market options with reasonable government regulations.

What we had when this country had great healthcare options.

You know... the stuff that was replaced with "Keep your Doctor", "keep your plan", "save $2500 a year" and other lies used to pass the unaffordable care act (and similar).

There's a reason "Free Healthcare" can only pass with lies - and it's because government options/UHC/etc are lies for those who don't look at... well... history.

[FireBeyond]

The ACA was a travesty. But let's not forget that it was the only thing that really had any hope of passing, thanks to one political party.

Funnily enough, speaking of lies and kool-aid, when you talk of ObamaCare to supporters of that political party, they are vehemently opposed.

"What if, instead of ObamaCare, there was, say, an Affordable Care Act that did X, Y and Z?" (where X, Y and Z were actual features of the ACA)

"Oh, that would be much better! I'd love that!"

[jcampbell1]

Medicaid for all, free markets for those who hate queues.