[iosystem]

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss what you believe doesn't work. Any government willing to subject its own citizens to what happened at MKUltra is capable of forging documents and releasing them with the goal of making the readers believe the experiments were complete failures.

[krapp]

OK, but at that point we're assuming some or all of the evidence that exists for MKULTRA was fabricated, intentionally declassified and released, while taking for granted that those documents are still accurate except for any part that discredit the program's effectiveness.

That the government wanted the public to know that these heinous experiments were taking place, just to try to convince them they didn't work, when it would have been much easier and more effective to simply never reveal them to begin with if they did work.

And if what the MKULTRA documents themselves say don't matter, then all of this is just a matter of faith. What is there to even discuss if the evidence doesn't matter one way or the other? Anything could be a coverup, false flag or misdirection.

[iosystem]

"[...]when it would have been much easier and more effective to simply never reveal them to begin with if they did work."

I don't necessarily agree with what you're suggesting as being simpler. It may, in fact, be simpler to reveal the experiments and discredit them by using forged documents. Regardless of what may be simpler, I don't think it's scientific to take either position, which is why I prefer an agnostic stance when reading things that essentially require taking a faith-based position.