[the_gastropod]

I’m not the GP poster. But I do not think one 80 mile wide city containing every US resident was intended as an example ideal case. It was intended as a demo of how non-dense the US is, on average.

Most “new urbanism” people advocate for medium sized, densely built, 15 minute cities. Not a single megalopolis.

[PH95VuimJjqBqy]

I plan on retiring in an area with hardly any people in it. Even now, living that tightly packed in sounds like a nightmare.

I can drive 30-45 minutes and be sitting on a lake with no one around, when I retire that drive will be 5-10 minutes.

A lot of us don't want to live like that even if we could.

[AnthonyMouse]

Which is fine -- nobody is asking for a law requiring all housing to be high density. The ask is to remove the laws prohibiting new housing from being high density.

Which should make it even easier to find low density housing, because you won't be competing for it against people who just need a place to live and don't care about having a big yard.

[the_gastropod]

Right. Nobody is trying to force anyone to live densely. The point is: dense housing (e.g., Manhattan) is expensive because of supply/demand. Lots of people do want to live like this. And it's illegal to build this way in most places in the U.S., only perpetuating the affordability problems across the board.