[arc-in-space]

Don't worry, I could have made it a much weirder comment. You know what else was reported in similar numbers as suicidal ideation, for Ozempic? Death. I'm pretty sure that's a whole lot scarier than thinking about death! That's a definitely life ending outcome! Incidentally, in a way really emblematic of how useful adverse event reports are, Wegovy has a single case of a gunshot wound, and I don't think the new exciting drug caused that.

Yes, I do play tricks with the aspirin comparison, but only to show just how wacky the original article is. If you think my two numbers are hard to compare, presumably you also agree that using a random case count with literally no context is effectively meaningless.

Furthermore, I think journalists doing statistics must be destroyed.

[dang]

Hey, could you please not post in the flamewar style to HN? You can make your substantive points without that.

You may not owe journalists doing statistics better, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

[mym1990]

> Furthermore, I think journalists doing statistics must be destroyed.

Because you think there are no journalists out there that can do statistics, or because you think they will always use it to make their own point?

[arc-in-space]

You do see a lot of really poor understanding of statistics out there, but on reflection, I want to say the latter is much worse. If journalists with an agenda were actually good at manipulating data, it would be much harder to put trust in anything.

[mym1990]

I totally understand that, statistics really is a double edged sword. I think a good journalist can do a lot of wonderful things with data. If we end up living in a world where journalists are banned from using data at all, that would be very disappointing.

[beepbooptheory]

Thinking about death is surely scarier than death itself my friend.