[TerrifiedMouse]

I don’t get why he saying “MS can’t compete” matters. It doesn’t mean it’s in any way true.

MS has almost every opportunity that Google has when it comes to search. They fail to compete simply because they aren’t good enough.

Google being default on Chrome the leading browser? Edge freaking comes with Windows and defaults to Bing.

Google being default on iOS? MS has every opportunity to take Google's spot on iOS. The fact that Apple, a major competitor with Google in the mobile space, sides with Google says a lot about Bing's quality - can't be money because MS is worth like 2.4 trillion.

[matteoraso]

>Google being default on Chrome the leading browser?

This is why Microsoft won't win. Google obviously isn't going to not use their own search engine on their own browser, and that's totally fine. I'm not sure what Google can even do to reduce the market share of their search engine besides intentionally making it worse than Bing.

[layer8]

They can be broken uo so that the entity making the browser is not the same entity operating the search engine anymore. If course, the same would apply to Edge and Bing.

[nojvek]

The entity making Edge is mostly Google. Edge is a shell on top of Chromium engine.

Chromium/Chrome team(s) is easily a few 100 million loss making, only profitable because of ads.

No one pays for the browser. It’s a loss leader.

So splitting them means things could get worse instead as the top browser engineers go elsewhere.

[TheCoelacanth]

Top browser engineers going elsewhere is a good thing because it means more competition.

Browsers being forced to come up with a real business model is a good thing too.